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Some great info from the "SHOT Show 2005" on upcoming lights, from Equipped to Survive site.

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a list of dealers that sell different flashlights
Bright Guy	all sorts of flashlights, one of my favorites
Surefire Flashlights	All of our Galco, Streamlight and Surefire products are at guaranteed low prices
Shenzhen LED Flashlights	lots of newer lights and neat gadgets!
ANDAX - Streamlight distributor	Anything you need from Streamlight, they have it.
Action Lights	Wide assortment of lights and accessories at good prices
Battery+Savers	lights that shut them selves off!
Light Edge	A bunch of great lights and good "test drive" on the ones they sell
the LED Light	A good assortment of flashlights
Karst Sports	a couple of good lights, great caving stuff
One Stop Knife Shop	LED and regular Flashlights, and knives
Tactical Flashlights	a wide assortment of lights
NDS Products	all sorts of led and regular flashlights
Triple Aught Design	even more good gear
Arizona Gun Runners	Surefire & Streamlight & lots more
1000 bulbs	bulbs, LED, Halogen, CF, CCFT & more
Sunn Battery	good prices batteries, where I get most of my batteries and chargers
Cheap Batteries	if you need a battery they probably have it
Thomas Distributing	batteries, most rechargables
TNR Technical	lithium 123's, and more
Z Battery	lots of rechargables & alkaline batteries and some lights
Buy Battery	Great source for Procell (Duracell) batteries!
web sites of the manufacturers of the lights
Sure Fire	what can I say, they make the best lights
Streamlight	I have to admit they make ok lights also
Photon lights	One of the best and brightest small lights out there
Mag	home for Mag Lite
UKE	Underwater Kenetics, whats the "E" for?
TekTite	make a lot of common lights
Princeton Tec	Makers of the Rage and Blast line
	Paul Kim, a fellow flashaholic that works at Surefire, great info
Light related sites
Candle Power Forums	A message board to ask questions about all sorts of lights.
Quickbeams	Flashlight reviews site, great info, lots of lights

Well I suppose this was going to happen sooner or later, but I have gotten more in to "regular" flashlights lately. Since I have, I might as well pass along what I have found. I will forever be looking for a very small, very bright light, be it led or regular. So now I have a good start on a couple of lights and here is what I have found. These light are listed in order of brightness at the center of their beams. All the lights were tested with brand new batteries and the voltages are actual under load.

As far as batteries are concerned I prefer Duracell or Procell. Since I use them for my work I decided to test some of the lithium batteries against each other. I ran them in my Surefire D2 with a P61 lamp. I know this isn't real scientific, but I just wanted to see what would happen before we started ordering them in bulk. Also, not every battery off the line is the same, so these results could vary. The Duracell Ultras ran for 27 min ($16.99 local store). The regular Duracell's ran for 25 min ($5.83 Botach). The Sanyo's ran for 23 min ($3.80 electronet). So the Duracell is a better battery. Using the prices above I calculated the price in cents to run the light for a minute, Ultra is 63 cents, regular Duracell 23 cents and 16 cents for the Sanyo. I would imagine that the price of ultras will come down as they catch on. I guess you have to choose if you want to pay more for a longer run time or get by cheaper and replace the batteries more often. 09-24-01 I just ran my first set of Surefire 123 and they ran just over 30 minutes. I will hopefully getting more soon to double check this runtime. There also might be an issue of thermal shutdown with the cheaper batteries. Basically these batteries get hot under normal use and will disconnect themselves if they get to to hot. Supposedly the Duracells will run longer and hotter before this happens, I didn't run in to this problem during my tests however. 09-01-03 I am running pretty much Sure Fire 123 exclusivly since Surefire (right from them) is selling 12 of them for $15. It is hard to beat that price and preformance.


Make	model	battery	voltage	amps	watt	focus	size inches	weight	CP@7M
Surefire	M6 & MN21	6 123's	6.1	4.9	29.9	4 feet	7.75x2.5	15.5 oz	130
Surefire	12PM & N62	4 123's	7.65	3.7	28.1	2 feet	8.9x2.5	10 oz	150
Surefire	M6 & MN20	6 123's	7.2	2.45	17.6	2 x 4	7.75x2.5	15.5 oz	120
Surefire	12PM & MN61	4 123's	8.35	2.3	19.1	2.5 feet	8.9x2.5	10 oz	75
Surefire	M3 & MN11	3 123's	6.5	2.3	15	4 feet	7.2x1.6	7.25 oz	40
UKE	SL6	6 C's	7.25	1.05	7.6	1.5 feet	8.3x2.5	19.5 oz	60
Surefire	P91	3 123's	6.25	2.35	14.6	3 feet	NA	NA	35
Surefire	D2 & KT1	2 123's	4.80	1.1	5.3	1 foot	6.25x2.5	9oz	30
Princeton Tec	Surge	8 AA's	5.35	1.1	5.9	2 feet	6.6x2	12 oz	28
Surefire	P90	3 123's	7.35	1.15	8.4	2 feet	NA	NA	22
Surefire	M3 & MN10	3 123's	7.6	1.2	9.1	2.5 x 4	7.2x1.6	7.25 oz	22
Surefire	D2 & P61	2 123's	3.75	2.30	8.5	3 feet	5.3x1.2	5.25 oz	20
TACM	III	2 123's	4.9	1.05	5.15	1 foot	4.75x1.4	4 oz	20
Surefire	8NX	recharge	3.55	2.05	7.3	1.5 feet	7.25x1.5	? oz	-
Pelican	M6	2 123's	4.65	1.22	5.6	adjustable	5.5x1.25	6 oz	15
Brinkman	Legend LX	2 123's	4.70	1.20	5.6	adjustable	5.5x1.5	5.75 oz	13
Surefire	D2 & P60	2 123's	4.80	1.10	5.3	2 feet	5.2x1.2	5.25 oz	12
Streamlight	Scorpion	2 123's	4.80	1.1	5.3	adjustable	5.1x1.2	4.5 oz	10
Surefire	E2	2 123's	5.00	1.00	5.0	3 feet	4.5x.8	3.0 oz	11
Police?	2x123	2 123	5.15	.8	3.9	adjustable	4.25x1.2	4.5 oz	8
Mag	5D	5 D's	4.9	.80	3.9	adjustable	17.4x2.2	46 oz	30
Mag	3D	3 D's	4.1	.75	3.1	adjustable	12.5x2.2	30 oz	8
Mag	3C	3 C's	3.8	.75	2.8	adjustable	11x2.2	19 oz	7
Pelican	Stealth	4 AA's	5.8	.48	2.7	1 foot	6.5x1.8	7.25 oz	9
Streamlight	Pro Polymer	4 AA's	5.75	.43	2.5	1.5 feet	6.25x1.6	6.5 oz	10
Princeton Tec	Tec 40	4 AA's	5.5	.5	2.75	3 feet	5.9x1.7	5.75 oz	10
Energizer	Arc White	4 AA's	5.6	.53	2.9	1.5 feet	6.00x2.2	6.0 oz	9
Streamlight	Syclone	4 AA's	5.7	.46	2.6	2.0 feet	5.00x2.0	8.0 oz	10
UKE	Q40	4 AA's	5.35	.40	2.1	review	5.6x1.5	5.0 oz	8
UKE	2L	2 123's	5.3	.40	2.1	review	4.3x1.2	3.0 oz	8
Bison	2C	2 C's	2.6	.65	1.7	adjustable	6.25x1.75	7.5 oz	-
Bison	2 AA	2 AA's	2.5	.6	1.5	adjustable	5.75x1.4	3.5 oz	-
Pelican	Super Pelilite	2 C's	2.50	.69	1.75	9 inches	6.25x1.7	8.1 oz	-
Princeton Tec	Rage	4 AAA's	5.25	.4	2.1	3 feet	4.75x1	2.75 oz	-
Surefire	E1	1 123	2.8	.7	2.0	1 foot	3.25x.8	2.5 oz	-
Surefire	3P	1 123	2.8	1.0	2.8	1 foot	3.5x1.2	4.0 oz	-
Princeton Tec	Tec 20	2 AA's	2.6	.50	1.3	2 feet	4.00x1.15	4.0 oz	-
Mag 2AA	Nexstar lamp	2 AA's	2.8	.45	1.25	adjustable	5.75x1	4.1 oz	-
UKE	Pen	2 AAA's	2.7	.35	.95	1 foot	4.7x .8	1.5 oz	-
Princeton Tec	blast	2 AAA's	2.6	.35	.9	2 feet	3.25x1	1.5 oz	-
Pelican	Super Mitylite	2 AAA's	2.7	.30	.8	4 feet	4.9x1	1.75 oz	-
Mag 2AA	regular lamp	2 AA's	4.1	.30	.85	adjustable	5.75x1	3.6 oz	-
Pelican	Mini Mitylite	1 AAA	1.3	.30	.39	1 foot	3.00x.75	1.0 oz	-

CP@7M is peak candle power at 7 meters or about 20 feet. Now this is just for reference. Remember it is the peak output, a light with a larger beam will have much higher lumen output. You can see this with the D2 using a Kt1 turbo head, the P60 lamp and the N1 lamp use the same amount of power and both prduce 65 lumen, yet the KT1 comes in at 30 while the P60 is 12. This is due to all the light being focused in a smaller area.
Focus is how wide the beam of light is after shining 20 feet. For lighting at a distance, a small number would be better, while a big number would be better for closer viewing.

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